Disappointed with the Sansa e280

I have been, by and and large, disappointed with my Sansa e280. The update software is garbage and the integration with Windows Media player is marginal at best. Maybe someone here can help me with some issues:

Happy with my new Sansa e2501. There are certain songs that I cannot, for the life of me, get to register with the player. No matter what I do, the song only appears as Unknown artist, Unknown album. The only way to find the song is to track it down via its track name. I've checked the tags with third party tag-writing programs, as well as with windows and even with iTunes, but no matter where or how I put in the missing Data, the e280 will not recognize it.
2. Album art recognition is marginal at best.
3. I cannot get a playlist _into_ the machine. If I drag a playlist into the e280 via the sync tab in Windows Media Player, it synchs the songs, but not the playlist itself.
4. Podcast Support is completely absent, and unworkable mostly because of the issues I seem to have with creating playlists.
5. Only about half of the time do videos I want to add to the player actually convert. And then only a select few actually play.
Look, guys, I'm not expecting the Sansa to be an iPod. I don't care if it doesn't have the nicey-nice iPod features that come with integration (and being locked into) a proprietary software/synching mechanism, but this e280 is no iPod.

It can't even start to compete.

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iPod

Yeah, the iPod isn't perfect, but it definitely gets a lot of things right... near seamless integration and ease of use are up on the list.

How do you think the Sansa compares to the current iteration of the iPod nano?

More Comparison.

Interesting Question.

The Nano, all iPods, really, are intuitive to the point of fault They set the Standard for usablity. When someone picks the Sansa up and the play button is at the top of the ring and not at the bottom, Apple wins. With an iPod, I just get how the scroll wheel works, so when I see the scroll wheel on the Sansa, I'm continually disappointed with how the spinning wheel doesn't act like an iPods. On the Sansa it's frustratingly difficult to turn the volume down if you're in the middle of doing something else. Also, it's something like five clicks to change the position within a song with your Sansa and you will probably screw it up at least once while you're trying to fast forward.
Regarding Video: I've not used the new iPod Nano, but I assume that if you click "Convert for Ipod" it actually does convert the image into a format that the iPod can use, whereas with the Sansa, there's about a 50-50 chance that it won't be encoded in a way that the media converter can use, and a 50-50 chance that the media converter will freeze and you'll have to use the task manager to kill the process and hope you don't have to do a restore from bios on the player.

That being said, the pretty pretty interface knocks the socks of the Ipod's but the animation is not as soothe as I'd expect. Neither player of them are user customizable which sucks. I don't want a blue select bar on my awesome [project] red nano! Why not let us pick some colors? (Typical Apple.) The Sansa doesn't let you change the skin either, though. Talk about a missed revenue opportunity!

The Nano 3 + iTunes is the superior Mp3 player across the board. Better support for Podcasting, video and audio, better database management (sort of, if you count creating play lists and sync lists as database management). Again, however, with the Sansa, right now, as it stands today, I've yet to figure out how to make a play list appear on the device.
Without iTunes the Nano 3 is useless at the moment, isn't it? Or do they have third-party patches now? However, since the Sansa does some undisclosed things with the file's tags to create it's own database-- which can be maddeningly slow whilst you're waiting to listen to music-- you pretty much need a client to manage your media library as well.

Sansa wins for the the ability to record audio and fm radio.

Here's what I love about it, though: Are you listening Apple? I CAN TAKE SONGS I HAVE OBTAINED AND AM ALLOWED TO MAKE COPIES LEGALLY OFF OF THE DEVICE!

Good followup!

Wow, quite a bit there...

Just one note, I copy files I have obtained off of my iPod all the time. I've shown others how to do it as well. I use Senuti, which I believe is open source (though Mac-only.)

I suppose with an iPod and Linux, YMMV. :(

I've used something Similar

I've used something Similar to Senuti with my fourth-gen iPod and it worked well. I should have clarified. My files are stored intact with all their relevant meta-data and can be easily dragged-and-dropped from any standard desktop.

Sansa E280 problems

My sansa e280 has worked well for the most part, however it refuses to display some files (albums, artists, songs) completely, although my computer can read them on the device. I have tried erasing all the music and syncing them again and the same files are there, yet won't be displayed on the devices screen, as though they aren't there at all. Has anybody else experienced this?

Same problem, I got alot of

Same problem, I got alot of unknown files on my mp3 no matter what I try, he can't play / read them ...

Erasing

I have tried erasing all the music and syncing them again and the same files are there, yet won't be displayed on the devices screen, as though they aren't there at all. Has anybody else experienced this?

Hey Dan.... Just open the unit as a drive on your computer and look at all the folders and check to see if they have the album or artist you want. I cleaned out mine and removed all of the generic stuff they put in when you get it new. I even removed the pictures. It is kind of confusing when you have doubles of the stuff you rip. Also there is a USB setting on the unit .. go to settings / USB mode/ the next screen shows 2 settings , and I use the MSC mode.
Steve

I've got the same

I've got the same issue...can't for the life of me figure out how to get playlist names to transfer...

hey i got a problem that u guys might might bealbe to help me

when i plug my sansa e280 in to the computer all it shows in the unknown albums i was woundering if anyone new how to fix this and if so please email me at pokie1985@aol.com at let me know cause i have been trying to figure it out all week long

e280 shows writing - but sync shows done?

My refurb'd new to me e280 - set 40 songs to sync - shows the sync is done in Media Player, but the device still shows writing? This has happened twice. Nothing shows on the e280 side of the Media Player - no songs show. Bad refurb?

Had the same issue/question.

Had the same issue/question. Just clicked the Safely Remove Hardware icon and waited for the okay to remove message, then disconnected.

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sansa playlist

not one person has answered the original question about playlist on the sansa. All anyone has done is coplain about sansa and brag about ipods hoew about ansewering the question

Same issue with playlists

Hey I came here looking for answer to the same issue but just before I leave I'd say that I've used Sansa for almost 2 years now starting with e200v1, e250v2 and now the newly bought e280 v1 and I can tell you that it's a wonderful player with a fraction of the cost of the iPods for the same capacity.

Yes it has it's own issues but once you get it up and running, it's just wonderful.

My best feature on the player (and I've confirmed with the ipod-dudes that it's not supported) is FM-Recording that I use almost all the time, it's superb mp3 quality recording makes it super-cool.

Kudos to Sansa for producing a great player. Nuff said.

How to edit "Unknown" songs

Hi, I have a Sansa e280 as well and it works fine for me. At first it was confusing but I like how I have a lot more control over it than iPods... Idk, it sounds weird, but it really helps when it freezes up and you can just unscrew the back plate and take out the battery. Then you put it back in, restart the Sansa, and it almost always starts fine again. However, iPods don't have a removable battery and that's really inconvenient. ANYWAYS idk if someone already posted something like this. But you can edit your Sansa's files when it's connected to your computer. I used to get "Unknown" files all the time but that's because they didn't have any names under Artist or Album or etc., and I learned that I could go to My Computer and find the MP3 player under "Devices w/ removable storage". Then you can open the MUSIC folder and find the music files in there. Right click, then select Properties, and somewhere you can add an Artist, Genre, Title, etc. As long as your unknown files are playing, and if they aren't already named, this should work.

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